Volusion Shopping Cart Review

by Ahmet Kirtok on September 2, 2007

Volusion Review

Important Note Before Reading this Volusion Review: This is a post I’ve written over 2 years ago. The comments section has become a discussion platform with hundreds of questions and answers. Even though this Volusion Review is little outdated, there are still important points to go through if you are looking for information about Volusion Shopping Cart.

I’ve closed the comments, so you won’t be able to add new comments. Please follow this Volusion Question Link to add your comments, questions, and thoughts about Volusion Shopping Cart. The site you will visit is Ecommerce Aid, a site started by myself and a number of ecommerce experts. You can ask and answer anything related to ecommerce.

I will personally answer and try to help with any question related to Volusion and ecommerce in general at Ecommerce Aid.

If you like to read the Volusion Review before heading to EcommerceAid.com to ask you questions, please feel free so. Thanks for your time.

I know how frustrating it is to find the right shopping cart solution for your business. I have worked with many small businesses and helped them finding the right solution for their needs.

Every ecommerce business has different needs just like real life brick and mortar businesses. Some of them start as home based, and some start larger with an initial investment. But they all have this question in mind;

What is the BEST shopping cart solution?

Very brief answer to this question is; There is not a solution called BEST shopping cart solution. If you want to start an ecommerce business, or if you are ready to upgrade your shopping cart, your question should be;

What is the RIGHT shopping cart solution for MY business?

The right shopping cart for my business may not be the right one for your business. Therefore, you should write down your needs step by step before starting to shop for a shopping cart solution. If you are planning to upgrade your shopping cart, start writing down the pitfalls, and bottlenecks within your business workflow. Maybe your shopping cart is not the problem, it is something else within your organization which you need to fix.

After a brief instruction about choosing the right shopping cart, I will review Volusion Shopping Cart, and share my experiences. Because it is sometimes very hard to find unbiased opinions of current users of a shopping cart written step by step. You can always find great information at forums, but most of them come from newbies, and might misdirect you.

Why Do I Review Volusion?

I am a current customer of Volusion Shopping Cart. I don’t work for Volusion nor I get paid for this review. After doing some research online, I was able to find only two very good and detailed reviews about Volusion Shopping Cart. They were both paid reviews, but very good ones. The only thing missing was these reviews were written by users who are not Volusion customers. So I thought, a detailed review written by a Volusion customer would give some more insights.

Please also visit these very well written Volusion Reviews I have mentioned:

Before Volusion Shopping Cart

Our ecommerce site was launched as a Yahoo Store on August 2006. We decide to move to Volusion during May 2007. Yahoo had its pros and cons, but I won’t get into them for now, I might write another review for Yahoo Stores. I wanted to disclose this information before reviewing Volusion. Because you will read comparisons with Volusion and Yahoo Store within this review.

Volusion Shopping Cart Review Step by Step


1 ) Volusion, Inc. Corporate Information

My business ethic always tells me to check the company behind the product before dealing with it.

I have visited Volusion’s website to find more information about the company.

If you take out the nicely put marketing sentences from 4 paragraphs of Volusion’s About Us Page, this is the only solid information you will get:

  • Volusion, Inc. is in business since 1999. (My note: Archive.org’s earliest record for Volusion.com goes back to April 06, 2004.)
  • Company has offices in Simi Valley, CA and Austin, TX

I had to leave About Page and find Contact Page to find the contact details for the company:

Corporate Contact Details for Volusion, Inc.
[photopress:volusion_office.jpg,full,alignleft]
Toll-Free Phone:
1-800-646-3517

CALIFORNIA OFFICE:
Volusion, Inc.
1736 Erringer Rd
Simi Valley, CA 93065

TEXAS OFFICE:
Volusion, Inc.
4926 Spicewood Springs
Austin, TX 78759

If you think about so many shopping cart softwares out there without even a toll free number, Volusion’s corporate background and overall company information gives me the trust I need to get into business with them. Volusion gets a thumbs up for my first criteria.


2 ) Volusion as an All in One Ecommerce Solution

thumbs_upVolusion claims its shopping cart as an All in One Solution, and even though it has missing parts for an all in one ecommerce solution, it is as close as you can get for the price.

Pros: Volusion has all the basic components needed for an ecommerce business. You can upload products, track inventory through the backend, do your purchase orders, make the products live with one click, bulk edit products and/or categories. Order fulfillment is pretty straight forward, and 100 times better than Yahoo Store’s. Reporting functionality needs some work, but offers basic data. Users with SQL knowledge can generate more detailed reports. Before we have upgraded to Version 5, we were promised a much better reporting, but it wasn’t much improved.

Cons: Some basic components of an ecommerce business have either limited functionality or missing. Email marketing is an important part of online business. Volusion’s email marketing is limited, but Aweber has announced their integration with Volusion, and I was happy like a baby. Aweber is my favorite email newsletter and autoresponder solution. For higher volume ecommerce businesses barcode functionality is missing, or it is not functional at all. Questions asked about barcode functionality at Volusion Forums such as this one were never answered by Volusion Staff. Volusion packages comes with very limited disk space and bandwith, I will get into this detailly.


3 ) Volusion Pricing

[photopress:question_mark.png,full,alignleft]Volusion has a limited 14 Day Free Trial, so you have the chance at least to try the software before you buy.

I couldn’t decide to give thumbs up or thumbs down for Volusion’s pricing. Very important factor to consider is; Volusion charges a monthly fee, and they do not take a percentage of your sales. This was the most tempting part for my business, because Yahoo’s Pricing structure was monthly fee plus the percentage of your sales. You may end up paying high fees if you have a fast growing business. Do your homework, and calculate your numbers to see how much this might affect your business.

Volusion Yahoo Price Comparison

Volusion has 5 main monthly packages from Steel to Platinum. Volusion packages’ details:

  • Steel Package: $29.95/month includes 20 products
  • Bronze Package: $49.95/month includes 100 products
  • Silver Package: $79.95/month includes 250 products
  • Gold Package: $99.95/month includes 1000 products
  • Platinum Package: $197/month for unlimited products

Very important: Volusion creates a new Product ID (SKU) for each product option. Something you may not find at Volusion Pricing is these options count as products.

So you have 10 shirts with 10 available colors each. You will need the Bronze Package, because Volusion will count your product total as 100 products. This is an important piece of information to consider if you have too many options within your products.

Bandwith Pricing:
Volusion has servers hosted by RackSpace, and over their package bandwith limits, Volusion currently charges just $0.01 per additional MB of bandwidth, or $10 per GB.

This number is very high comparing the hosting industry average prices, and Sitesell, who in many ways are competitors to Volusion offer unlimited bandwidth.

Even though this might not look like a big issue, it might become a big issue very soon.

We have the Platinum package with around 2000 products, and very low traffic for the months of July and August, and as a big surprise, today I have received an invoice for $288 instead of $197 (Platinum package monthly price). I went to check my stats in Google Analytics and was very surprised to see the overage charges with my traffic.

Volusion’s Platinum Package has 15Gb bandwith limit, and my Google Analtyics details are:

Last 30 Days Average

371 unique visitors/day
2499 page views/day
6.73 pages/visit

But when I check Volusion Stats, it’s so high that it’s not even comparable to anything. I know Google Analytics will miss some visitors (who don’t enable javascript), and it might not be 100% accurate, but how much would be the actual difference? Unfortunately, Volusion Stats shows SEVERAL times higher bandwith usage than Google Analytics.

I have posted a question/comment about this at Volusion Forums, and it didn’t get a reply from Volusion Staff.

There is a work around for bandwith problem. You can host your images at a different server, and instead of uploading your images to each product, you can enter the image URL’s. But it brings an extra step of work. Because Volusion automatically resizes your images for each needed size while uploading, but if you will upload to a different server, you need to download Volusion’s offline thumbnail generator.

Bandwith, email newsletter, and live chat features comes with extra pricing if you outgrow their minimum numbers. Remember to consider these within your budget planning.

Volusion also offers Semi dedicated and dedicated servers, and for my business it looks like we need to move to semi dedicated server ASAP. You might view corporate solution pricing page for these options starting at $349/month. You also have the option to purchase Volusion Software, host it yourself, and fully customize it. I saw it around $10.000 but I couldn’t find the information right now.

Overall, I can’t say Volusion is cheap, or expensive. Consider the extra charges, and decide yourself.


4 ) Volusion SEO

thumbs_upVolusion claims it is; Completely Search Engine Optimized. Compared to other shopping cart solutions, Volusion does a pretty good job about SEO. But there are still missing parts, and important parts.

Volusion lets you customize meta tags (title, description, keywords, alt tags) which is a big plus for search engines. Volusion’s category and product URL structure is very search engine friendly if you turn on the SEO feature. But search engines still catch your SEO friendly and Non-SEO friendly URL’s. Volusion needs to work on this little bit more. Google might consider the same product page as a duplicate content, and degrade the value of this page by sending it to the supplimental index.

Volusion does not use the Header tags with their templates. This is a very important issue needs to be fixed. Most of the shopping carts already assigns H1 tag to the product and category names within the page. We manually create an H1 tag for categories at the category description field. This is an extra step of work, it should be within the template. Since Volusion’s template system is not 100% flexible, this is the best solution for now.

Overall, Volusion is search engine friendly, but not “Completely Search Engine Optimized” as advertised.


5 ) Volusion Support

Thumbs Down VolusionIf you have a basic question support is very helpful. They read and reply from the manual right away. But if you have a complex problem, then you are in trouble.

If you are lucky and your question is handled by a knowledgable support staff, you might get an answer, otherwise you need to constantly email and call until you find your question’s answer.

I was going to give a thumbs up for the Volusion Support but we had an incident which changed my mind. One friday morning couple of weeks ago our site was down around 8.30am (eastern time). And without any explanation or any given reason we had to wait until 12.30pm to get our problem fixed. Our site was down (not accessable) for exactly 4 hours. We had to wait for their server people wake up and go to the office to fix the problem (in California). During or after the problem we did not get any detailed explanation about the problem. There was a server problem.

After many emails and phone calls I couldn’t reach anybody from the management team. But my request to speak with a manager was returned that afternoon. Gary Spillman called from Volusion, he was very friendly and tried to help. I also had the chance to explain him other problems we were having. My special thanks goest to Gary Spillman who’s spent time and sent detailed answers about my questions.

Volusion’s servers are at Rackspace. I haven’t heard any 4 hours downtime with Rackspace servers before. But it has happened to us anyway. I hope it will not repeat, especially during the christmas season.

In case of emergency issues, you are on your own. Do not accept much from Volusion Support.


6 ) Volusion Forums

Thumbs Down VolusionWhen I was researching before I have moved to Volusion, I have spent quite some time on Volusion Forums. Everything sounded so perfect, or close to perfect. After I’ve become a customer, I was trying to spend time, but suddenly one of my posts has disappeared. Overall I’m happy with Volusion and I keep recommending it to my friends, and readers. I haven’t written anything against the product, nor did bad PR.

Sometimes it is hard to have a forum for a commercial product. You will have competitors acting like customers and talking against your product. These posts might be moderated, but there is a thin line between moderation and cencorship.

As a customer I must have the right to share my problems with the software, and ask for new features, improvements, etc. If you don’t want this public, then make a private forum for only customers.

Moderating your happy customers’ perfectly fine questions at the forum might turn against Volusion.

One of the main reasons which made me to write this unbiased review about Volusion was the cencorship at the Volusion Forums. I hope the management team will reconsider their policies about moderation.


7 ) Templates & Design

thumbs_upVolusion’s template system is pretty flexible. With the version 5, they have more free templates. If you know basic html, you can easily modify the Volusion Templates. Volusion also offers customization services, but they are pricey compared to freelancers out there.

Volusion needs to seperate code, and design fully. I believe they are working on it since I see improvements with the version 5. But overall their template system is much easier and better than many solutions out there.


8 ) Checkout, Shipping and Payment Options

thumbs_upVolusion has one page checkout, and very user friendly. You can customize and add extra options to the checkout.

Your visitors have 3 options for the checkout. If they are returning customers, they can login and complete their purchase. If they are new customers, they can easily create and account or do an anonymous purchase without registering an account.

You can accept credit cards if you have a merchant and gateway account without any problems. PayPal integration is pretty good. With version 5, volusion promised a better Google Checkout integration. We currently offer all credit cards and paypal as payment options. We were planning to offer Google Checkout also, but when we realised that we had to create all shipping rules and tables for Google, we decided not to use Google Checkout. I don’t know if this is Volusion’s or Google’s fault, but it doesn’t make sense for us to create each shipping rule table for Google.

If you use Fedex, UPS, or USPS Volusion’s shipping system is great and very flexible. As a DHL user, we were promised a full DHL integration with version 5, but it came with bugs. Volusion shipping system pulls DHL rates, but most of them are not accurate. We have already lost money on it, and our support ticket about this was simply refused by saying “There is no problem with Volusion’s DHL Live Rate integration, please contact DHL”. We are 100% sure that DHL is working fine (other shipping softwares we use with DHL API proves it). As I have mentioned at support review, if you have a problem which the customer support can’t fix or doesn’t want to get into, they will simply refuse the problem, or blame others about it.

One very positive feature with Volusion 5 is the multiple warehouse option. We haven’t tried it yet, but I’m sure it will help many small businesses which use multiple warehouses or dropshipping.


9 ) Volusion CRM System

thumbs_upWe have been using Kayako Support Suite for our email ticket and live chat system. It does a great job. We have Kayako’s hosted version, and pay $39.95/month for both ticket and live chat systems. Our live chat button was at our site’s header (on all pages). It worked fine with Yahoo Store. We had to remove it at the checkout page due to SSL error prompt window, but we couldn’t do that with Volusion. Currently we can only use Kayako live chat image on the homepage, and we are looking for a solution.

Volusion heavily promotes its “Free Live Chat” feature. It might be enough for beginners, but if you like to run a fully functional Live Chat system, then you will need their Premium Live Chat software. It costs $29.95 per operator. You can compare free and premium live chat features here at Volusion’s site.

We will either pay $499.95 for Kayako and purchase it. Then host it on an SSL enabled server. This way we will keep our great email ticket management system, and live chat. Or we will move to Volusion CRM and pay monthly fees. Main concern here is the per operator cost of Volusion Live Chat.

I also need to check Volusion Email Ticket System since I couldn’t find detailed information about its features and pricing as of now.

Even though Volusion’s CRM system might come with an extra cost per month, Volusion is one of the few companies that offer a fully integrated CRM system. Overall, it is a big thumbs up.


10 ) Marketing

thumbs_upThere are many great marketing features integrated with Volusion. Some of these features needs improvement or a paid membership for their full versions, but overall Volusion has one of the largest feature set for marketing.

Some of Volusion’s Marketing Features:

  • Gift Certificate: Great feature, both online and offline delivery options.
  • Coupons: Perfect coupon system. Create many types of coupons, very flexible.
  • Export Feeds to Third Party Shopping Marketplaces: I haven’t tried this yet, but looks very promising.
  • 5 Tier Affiliate System: Not very advanced, but very simple and easy to use. Would be a great marketing tool for small ecommerce businesses.
  • Built-in E-Mail Marketing/Newsletter Marketing: Said before, limited but builtin. You can easily integrate Aweber if you need a more powerful email newsletter system.
  • Phone Order System with Sales Rep Tracking: Excellent new feature. Automatically credits the customer rep who took the phone order. You can run reports about this and give bonuses to customer reps.
  • Quantity Discounting: Works fine, but needs little improvement on the product page.

11 ) Inventory Management

thumbs_upVolusion’s inventory management is as close to PERFECT as it gets. There are so many options and features within inventory and categories, and I honestly don’t know which ones to list. Just a few of the most important inventory management features comes with Volusion:

Pricing Flexibility: You can have list price, regular price, discount price, rename the wording for these features (e.g. show OUR SPECIAL PRICE to the customer). Also you can have multiple pricing levels. e.g. Setup wholesale and retail prices, and show retail prices to all visitors, and retail customers, and show wholesale prices to only wholesale customers. This is a great feature, and we use it to setup retail, wholesale, and VIP customer levels and pricing. No more wholesale phone orders, and manual tracking of wholesale orders. You can also have recurring pricing. We do not use this feature but it might be very helpful for subscription type sites.

Realtime Inventory Tracking: You can track your inventory realtime, add vendor price, and always see the profit margins, and many more detailed reports.

Vendor Information: There’s a whole section for vendor information. Vendor price, UPC Barcode, automatic purchase ordering, manual purchase ordering, and many more features.

Digital Products: Volusion supports digital products. Customers receive an email with a link to a downloadable digital product. They can also re-download these products within their account. Great feature, and not offered by many shopping carts.

Multiple Categories and Multiple Warehouses: You can assign a product to multiple categories, and multiple warehouses.

There are so many options within inventory management. We have found almost all available features offered for inventory management within Volusion Package.


12 ) Order Fulfillment

thumbs_upOrder fulfillment becomes easier with Volusion. It is easy to do batch processing. Each order has a private comment field to enter comments about that order for inhouse staff communication, and also a comment field to update the customer about order. All emails are automatically sent when an order is updated. There is a great search feature within orders.

With the new version, you can easily take phone orders. It is also very easy to keep track of problem orders. Until an order is fully completed you can leave it as opened. Also an order can be partially shipped which helps in many cases. You can upload several tracking numbers per order also.

Overall, Volusion’s Order Fulfillment System is one of the best I have ever seen. Much much better than very expensive softwares’ such as Order Motion.


13 ) Web 2.0 Friendly? User Generated Content

thumbs_upWeb 2.0 is all about user generated content. Volusion has Product Reviews, but not much more. You cannot even easily integrate a blog within volusion. You either need to setup a subdomain and host it somewhere else, or face many problems trying to redirect your blog to your store URL with blogger.

Before it is too late, Volusion might consider adding more Web 2.0 social marketing and user generated content features.

Even only a “customer reviews” feature which comes fully integrated with Volusion makes it a great marketing tool for your business. Only this feature might cost you hundreds if not thousands of dollars for a Yahoo Store customization.


14 ) Multiple Staff Management

thumbs_upVolusion has one of the best multiple staff management system. When you create an account for a staff, you can customize all permission levels within one page.

Before, even our temporary staff had access to ALL parts of our business including reporting, daily sales, etc. But now, each staff has his/her own access level, and never sees anything more than they need to see.

This feature is a big thumbs up compared to many other solutions out there.


15 ) Stability

Thumbs Down VolusionOne of the key factors to decide a shopping cart software for us was the “international language support”. We have mentioned this as a first question to Volusion, and decided to go with Volusion when we saw this feature.

But unfortunately when we moved to Version 5, international language support was gone. Such an easy issue (integrating hardcoded UTF-8 meta tags to storefront and backend) has become a big problem with Volusion. After being on the phone and email for 2 weeks, they have fixed the problem. Now, it’s broken again. We have told them exactly what the problem is and how to fix it. Even though it was fixed for a while, now they offer a temporary solution. If we decide to move to another solution from Volusion, we will have to correct each product manually, because Volusion’s great inventory export feature will export our products with all broken characters. Hoping to see a permanent solution for this.

International language support might not be a big issue for many businesses, but think about having the most important feature of Volusion removed while upgrading to a latest version. Maybe that feature was the main one which made you decide to move to Volusion, and now it’s gone.

Stability is an extremely important part of software business, and we hope to see Volusion take this as a friendly advice.

We also hear complaints at Volusion forums from members who have upgraded to Version 5 and lost all of their custom work. These people trusted Volusion and spent time/money to have custom code for better usage of Volusion, but now Volusion tells them, hey we have a new system and your custom work will not work. This is not a good stability practice for Volusion.


I did not intent to write a review this long, but I wanted to share as much experience as I can about my experiences.

I hope this unbiased Volusion review will help my visitors to make their decisions.

I will be glad to update/edit any information above if I made any mistakes. I will also try to update this review when Volusion rolls new features, this way we will try to keep this review most up to date.

Please share your questions, comments, and reviews here under this topic.

This review contains solely my personal opinions, and Volusion is more than welcome to answer any of the topics officially or unofficially, I’ll be including their replies/comments.

Since there is not a “Best Shopping Cart Solution”, instead the “Right Shopping Cart Solution for My Business”, please decide yourself if Volusion is the right solution for your business.

I currently use Volusion for my business, and do not have any short term plans for moving. Therefore, currently Volusion is the right solution for my business.

Important Note About this Volusion Review: This is a post I’ve written over 2 years ago. The comments section has become a discussion platform with hundreds of questions and answers. Even though this Volusion Review is little outdated, there are still important points to go through if you are looking for information about Volusion Shopping Cart.

I’ve closed the comments, so you won’t be able to add new comments. Please follow this Volusion Question Link to add your comments, questions, and thoughts about Volusion Shopping Cart. The site you will visit is Ecommerce Aid, a site started by myself and a number of ecommerce experts. You can ask and answer anything related to ecommerce.

I will personally answer and try to help with any question related to Volusion and ecommerce in general at Ecommerce Aid.

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1 Andy Beard September 3, 2007 at 4:36 am

Hi Kirtok

That is a really impressive review

Some things I thought about whilst reading it.

Is there some way through redirects such that you can force the Volusion system to store images etc in an offline location and still use their interface?

Is the coupon system linked into the affiliate program so that with phone orders affiliates can still gain credit for the sale?

Bandwidth could well be due to the search engines crawling your site. If you don’t get traffic from image searches, you might want to block them from your images, or limit the frequency images are crawled in your sitemap.xml (though they might not pay much heed)

2 Kirtok September 3, 2007 at 11:20 am

Andy, thanks for the nice comment.

Is there some way through redirects such that you can force the Volusion system to store images etc in an offline location and still use their interface?

For each product, you have an option of either uploading your images, or entering a URL. So you can easily store your product images at a different server. This is what we are planning to do. I’m sure this will save us the bandwith overage.

Is the coupon system linked into the affiliate program so that with phone orders affiliates can still gain credit for the sale?

As far as I know, cuopon system is not linked to the affiliate program. When you enter a phone order, it shows the person who’s entering the phone order as default. You can manually change the sales rep from a drop down within the phone order page. But you only have the option of choosing another staff member. It’d be a great addition to have the affiliates list within this drop down menu. I will have to ask volusion if they we can credit affiliates for a phone order, if not, I will submit a feature request.

Bandwidth could well be due to the search engines crawling your site. If you don’t get traffic from image searches, you might want to block them from your images, or limit the frequency images are crawled in your sitemap.xml (though they might not pay much heed)

This is a great suggestion, and I never thought about this. Volusion creates your sitemap automatically. I have to check and see what I can do about editing the frequency of crawl rate.

Thanks for very informative questions. I’ll update my answers when I hear from Volusion.

3 Iris Faber September 3, 2007 at 11:44 am

Very very good review. Overall, I love Volusion. We tried finding others that were just as good, and are still searching.

Volusion is in the process of upgrading to V5, so I asked them when they are gonna upgrade. They said I can be a beta tester….so I said yea. They mentioned that they successfully upgrade about 30 websites with no problems.

They tried to upgrade mine twice, and I can’t sign into the back end. I get an error, ‘Unable to open the ile “\PlanInfo.cdx” because of error “Object required”.’

So now I cannot process orders for our customers. We are still waiting to get into the admin area after chatting with support 2 to 3 times. So support is a thumbs down.

4 Kirtok September 3, 2007 at 11:57 am

Hi Iris

I know Volusion lets you upgrade before a stable new version is released. We were one of the beta testers for V5. Other than the international language character problem, we did not have any main issues.

You should definitely call Volusion ASAP. Your problem is far worse than anything I’ve seen. This is emergency, you NEED to access the backend, and process orders.

I hope it will be solved very soon. Please let us know the updates.

As I said within my review, every solution has pros and cons, but for my business, Volusion seems like the right choice for now.

Good luck with your Volusion store.

5 Michelle September 4, 2007 at 2:50 pm

Kirtok,

It seems as if you put quite a bit of thought into this review. We put a lot of effort into giving you the features you need to succeed online, and it sounds like you are using many of the capabilities of our software. Please note that Volusion is very interested in improving our service to our merchants, so your comments will be noted in these efforts.

I do apologize that your site went down that morning. We do everything we can to ensure that our sites have as minimal downtime as possible. Although four hours of downtime is too much, your issue was escalated to our primary Tech Support Manager and the issue was resolved as soon as we were able. We do focus on uptime issues during the holidays especially since this is a very important time for our customers and traffic tends to be higher than usual.

Search engines do tend to take up more bandwidth than merchants expect. You can track this traffic in your control panel and can block spiders as need be. I have seen Yahoo spiders take up quite a bit of bandwidth in particular.

I sincerely hope you are happy with your Volusion store. We strive to make our stores as efficient and effective as possible and will continue to dedicate ourselves to your success.

Regards,
Michelle
http://www.volusion.com

6 Kirtok September 11, 2007 at 6:14 pm

UPDATE about Volusion V5 DHL Integration:

Volusion promised a DHL Shipping Carrier integration with version 5. We have been waiting for this since we ship mostly with DHL.

After many trials, and tests, I can clearly conclude that Volusion is NOT integrated with DHL.

I have also received a confirmation from Volusion Support about this.

Volusion vs DHL Integration Problems:

1) Volusion never pulls the correct DHL rates.

2) If the total rate is a decimal number, it will not pull DHL Live Rates. (if your order’s total weight is 1.4lbs it will not pull any rates, it has to be 1 lbs or 2 lbs in this case).

I keep wondering; Why would a company advertise an important addition to their product when this addition is NOT working at all.

As usual, my questions to volusion support were replied with a nice tone; “We are sorry that this problem is not solved, but we always try our best to help our customers”.

7 hiutopor September 18, 2007 at 6:29 am

Hi

Very interesting information! Thanks!

G’night

8 Reece Muru September 19, 2007 at 12:26 am

Great review Kirtok.

We are looking at changing from AceFlex to Volusion due to very poor local AceFlex support (we are in New Zealand). I was very impressed with Volusion’s website and product features, especially the online training videos. A similar company to us based in Australia is using Volusion and I asked the owner what he thought of Volusion and he gave a “thumbs Up” for the product, but said their service was very poor.

Can any other International (non-US) users let me know what they think of Volusion?

Thanks

Reece

http://www.tactical.co.nz

9 Amanda Sherwin October 15, 2007 at 12:05 pm

Very impressive review. I’ve been using Volusion since 2005, and would like to add a couple of things.

First, Volusion is currently experiencing difficulty with ScanAlert on several customers’ sites. ScanAlert is “bombarding” these sites, leading to significantly increased bandwith and overages. For example, I have the $77 package, and have never gone over it till now. In August the overage charges were $28, and in September the overage charges were $13. I’ve talked to both Volusion and ScanAlert, and they simply point at each other. Volusion refuses to waive the overage charges, saying they’ve incurred costs, and ScanAlert refuses to reimburse, saying it’s Volusion’s problem. volusion also suggests that the customer can cancel their ScanAlert subscription to resolve the problem. Since Volusion originally recommended ScanAlert, this “you’re on your own ” attitude is very aggravating.

Second, if you try to use Volusion’s marketing team, forget it. I asked them to fix one problem last December, that was occurring because my site has a custom design. They assured me the problem had been fixed, but it kept recurring. I spoke, left messages and emailed the Marketing Director, James Gonzalez over several months. He responded once, said he’d look into it, and has not responded to any follow up contacts. With Volusion’s rigid scripts, custom designs can create significant problems.

Just my observations as a customer.

Amanda

10 Jeff October 31, 2007 at 5:28 pm

The Volusion bandwidth charges are very frustrating and definitely add significantly to the cost of the published packages if you generate decent traffic. I find it akin to the old “cell phone pricing” where everybody always went over their allocated minutes and found unpleasant surprises in their bill.

We almost immediately encountered overages when we started with Volusion and have since upgraded to the highest plan. However, our bill is still over $1,000 per month due to the bandwidth we generate with no sign of it retreating. We will look into hosting our images on another server, but it seems extremely antiquated to do so and we would LOVE To see Volusion step up and provide pricing plans for mid-sized online retailers.

We have asked for a customized proposal but have been told that there are no plans to offer customized pricing plans at this time. Argh.

11 Kirtok October 31, 2007 at 6:05 pm

Hi Jeff

What’s the average daily unique visitor number for your site?

Are you on the dedicated server plan also?

Kirtok

12 Jeff October 31, 2007 at 6:26 pm

Hi Kirtok,

We have about 3500 uniques a day and are on the dedicated server plan.

We do not use Scan Alert so it does not chew any bandwidth (I was never convinced that adding the word “Hacker” to my website even if modified by the word “Safe” would positively impact sales, lol).

It looks like spiders ate up about 9GB in bandwidth this month too with MSNBot being the most hungry at 5GB.

Although I’d like to see Volusion implement more Web 2.0 and revenue generating features, I do give their overall service a thumbs up, like you.

Just would like to see pricing consideration that meets the needs of higher bandwidth users.

13 Kirtok October 31, 2007 at 8:34 pm

Very helpful information Jeff, thank you.

I think volusion should definitely consider mid-sized online retailers. Many of the small businesses grow, and grow quickly. Moving to a different solution might not be the right choice for the short term. I definitely agree with you, overall we’re also very happy with volusion.

I think if volusion finds a solution to the bandwith charges, and improves its customer service, they might be the best choice in the market.

Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions.

14 Considering Volusion November 3, 2007 at 3:21 am

Kirtok – Great review!!! It’s good to see these Volusion folks doing some PR work on your site.

Can anyone provide alternatives to Volusion?

1. Also, for the small business owners just starting out, Volusion’s bandwidth issues shouldn’t be a big deal right?

2. How “no-string attached” is their cancellation policy? I’m planning to use Volusion for the first seven months till I code my own system.

Thanks for this awesome review!

15 Jeff November 5, 2007 at 2:24 am

We did 6.3 GB in our first month of sales and had to upgrade from our inital “Silver” subscription. By month six, we were at 25GB, well eclipsing the maximum bandwidth of the Platinum plan which only allows 15GB.

16 Jeremy November 16, 2007 at 5:04 am

As a current Volusion customer, I found this review to be mostly fair. Having said that, I’m amazed at the whole bandwith issue. We are a small delivery service in Madison,WI only and usually get under 500 unique visitors per day. Yet somehow we had to pay $80 extra this month (up from our standard $99 bill) due to using over twice our allotted bandwith. Bottom line, bandwith should not be this much of an issue for a basic site with nothing more then a couple of graphics.

I also was less then impressed with the answers I received from customer care when I called regarding this issue. Basically I was told, check out why you are using so much bandwith and make a change. My site doesn’t need a change, Volusion does!

17 Jason November 17, 2007 at 8:56 pm

I’m building my site currently with Volusion. It was a difficult decision – who shoudl I go with? Out of the box websites are never perfect – but when you consider the sort of functionality they provide could cost anywhere from $10 – 50k with a web dev/design company, you can’t complain too much. Support is ok if simple. If complicated they simply don’t respond.

Can anyone explain how I manually enter h1 tags? I’m getting pro copywriting done so I want to ensure I utilise this properly. Help would be much appreciated.

Cheers

J

18 John December 5, 2007 at 6:56 pm

Kirtok,

Thanks so much for publishing your review! I’m doing my research and am close to choosing Volusion. If you or someone could answer a few questions for me, I’d really appreciate it.

1. V’s merchant + gateway fee seems high at .34/trans, even though the 2.17% is good. Quickbooks Merchant Services are cheaper and I use QB acc’t. software. But V’s website doesn’t list them as a merchant service they support. QB Merchant CSR says it will work, but its the cart/software integration they can’t guarantee. What’s up with this? Does anyone out there use QB Merchant services and acc’t software with Volusion?

2. I’m hoping this is a really naive question, but after a fair amount of research GoDaddy seems to at least market the most similar set of cart features and they are way cheaper then V. Is anyone in a position to give a top-line comparison of the two?

Thanks!

19 david December 13, 2007 at 7:25 pm

How was this resolved? Are you still with volusion?

20 Dennis January 3, 2008 at 11:47 pm

I recently sold a business that was a past customer of Volusion. With that business we had a lot of sales of the same item each day. With those sales I wanted to bulk process the printing of mailing labels along with emails to the customers to notify them that their item was being shipped. The only way I could do this with Volusion was to download the sales, process them through another company to print the postage on the label, then upload the shipping information back into volusion. All of this was extremely time consuming.
I am now looking for another solution for our new company and I don’t want the same problem. Is there a better way?
Also, We could not work with Volusion unless we used Firefox. M.S.Explore took forever to download pages from Volusion. Has this imporved?

21 SkippyJones January 4, 2008 at 6:03 am

My two cents is that you folks are being way too easy on Volusion regarding their bandwidth scam. I was quite excited about this solution, and have spent quite a bit of time researching carts. I was floored by the bandwidth pricing. This is bait and switch on unsuspecting small business owners, to say the least. Bandwidth is simply NOT AN ISSUE with most hosting providers – at least not down in the single digit GB realm! For goodness sakes. It is a bottom-of-the-barrel marketing practice that reflects very poorly on a company whose r&d has made a good product. I mean look at the logic of it – you have to buy their ‘corporate’ plan – at the equivalent monthly cost of leasing a high performance sports car – to get a measley 60GB of bandwidth????? For 7.99 a month there are plenty of hosting companies that will provide you about..well…uhh….20 times that. 20 times the bandwidth for one hundred times less the cost. Well, buyer beware, and I’m passing on Volusion, and am quite angry at having spent the better part of 4 hours tonight getting excited about a product that is run by a bunch of scam artists. Their design services, by the way, are also ridiculously, i mean ridiculously, overpriced. What I smell is contempt for their customers, and prospects, and I’m not impressed.

22 athensoh January 12, 2008 at 2:39 am

A great review and discussion – thanks!

I am considering moving from Yahoo Stores, so my main concern is how easy (or painful) it was to migrate from Y to Volusion, including transfer of the catalog and description, as well as the entire hosting matter. My domain was purchased through Yahoo too, so was it easy to set up new forwarding, name servers, email, etc.?

Thanks!

23 Nicole January 24, 2008 at 3:39 pm

I am so glad I found this review — I am currently in the 14 day trial. The issues on bandwith charges are interesting. Where can you track your bandwith usage and does anyone have any steps that you can take to keep it low?

24 Nicole January 24, 2008 at 4:43 pm

As I am finalizing my store — I contacted volusion to see if they had any stats on my current usage (as a demo). And someone named Kristina, would not give me this information. Stating that they don’t have that information for demo stores — which is absurd because the pages are on their servers and they should be able to view the total usage of my web space. Not impressed on that end with the level of support. If they are attempting to convert trial customers through the purchase cycle… they are not succeeding!

25 Richard January 26, 2008 at 1:54 pm

I am a current customer that may be leaving Volusion very soon.
I cannot find out why my visits and page views show up to 5 times more in volusion than google? They say the data comes from raw data on their server???
Google shows one visit and volusion shows 4 to 5 visits every time.
The Stats history takes an extremely long time to load. 30 min or more sometimes.
I have tried many times to VERIFY their stats but have been unable to and cannot find a solution at this time.

26 Kirtok January 30, 2008 at 2:37 am

SkippyJones; Bandwith seems like the major problem from many volusion customers’ perspectives. We hope volusion listens to us, and works this out.

athensoh; yes migrating from yahoo to volusion was pretty easy.

Nicole; I am sorry to hear your experience during the trial. I hope sbd from volusion is reading this.

27 James February 4, 2008 at 6:36 am

Hi, Great review kirtok, i know averyone has said it but its good to hear a actual user being frank about the product.

I am from the UK and after looking at lots of options i came across volusion late saturday night. I seem like a dream solution. I am totally unfamiliar with website building and havent got the first clue. Therefore this seemed a good choice. I went down the usual ebay/paypal route to see what it offered and the charge for selling on their site would be like £13 an item, which is the profit margin i am working on going into ebay’s deep pockets. So this system seems to provide a much better solution. I am a young busisness man and I am new to all of this really, but very excited about the possiblitys this volusion may give me in order to sell my products.
Speaking to the support line [on live chat] last night as it was a sunday evening and no sale reps were available. I found the serivce to be slow and I had to spend an hour to ask a few simple questions. The serice was polite and she apppologies for the slow service. As a potential UK customer i will only be able to use the live chat sytem, calling it totally out of the question apart from emergencys as the cost is astronomical. Therefore am worried about the level of serivice through this support as i cannot in effect yell down the phone to make people pay attention !!!
I also wonder about the compatability with mac computer as i am a recent convert, buying an new imac and iphone. I wonder if i will beable to recieve emails through the iphone as i am away from home alot. Whether they are compatable. I dont anticipate you will know this but its worth asking.
As a Uk website i will want to make sure that the recognised uk payment and security features are present and accounted [increasing customer assurance], and that prices are displayed and calculated in sterling pounds and potentically euros, as it will be no good in dollars at the moment.

Well i seem to have rambled on for to long, i hope you are able to enlighten me, in the not to distant future as i need to sort this out quicky.

James

28 Tushar February 7, 2008 at 6:00 pm

This is a short comment. We are in the UK, having been with volusion (2 sites) since Dec.2006.

Overall, we have found Volusion excellent! It would be nice to have greater access to their development people.

I am interested to learn of the bandwith usage issue, as we have just been clobbered with an additonal $50 for bandwidth that we have no idea where it came from. It just shot up the last month. I certainly will be taking this up.

Other issue in the UK – Have been trying to get Volusion to incorporate a UK payment gateway called cardstream into the payment system. There is no word from development and we cannot reach development by phone. Cust.services who have been helpful say it is now in development’s hands. The payment gateway company is also getting frustrated.

We have also just found we cannot use googlebase as googlebase will not accept VAT exclusive pricing, which is what Volusion produces. Have sent email to support. Overall, though, googlebase export works like a treat if only it would allow vat inclusive prices to be uploaded.

Support can be patchy, depending upon who you get. Somebody mentioned Kristina, who we have found to be more of an obstacle rather than a help. Often she failed to understand the issue and appeared to block all attempt at moving forward. In contrast, Tara is excellent. Each time, she has come back with very positive suggestions and we have managed to sort a number of major problems, 2 of them being integration with googlebase and google checkout.

We mainly use live chat for support. I would be interested in other Uk users’ comments

Tushar

29 Robert February 14, 2008 at 11:53 pm

We have several sites, OS Commerce, Miva Merchant, and Volusion. I would say the right site is not necessarily vendor dependent (unless it is a little home business) but more dependent on having a professional team behind the platform to tweak it to high performance. Hard to find this kind of shop however.

I would recommend a look at non transactional fee based packages. PDG Software, Miva Merchant, AceFlex all have robust features and end up doing a better job at much less cost.

30 Kenric March 5, 2008 at 1:38 pm

“Very important: Volusion creates a new Product ID (SKU) for each product option. Something you may not find at Volusion Pricing is these options count as products.

So you have 10 shirts with 10 available colors each. You will need the Bronze Package, because Volusion will count your product total as 100 products. This is an important piece of information to consider if you have too many options within your products.”

I just talked to Volusion about this. They said that if you are using their inventory system for each product that the above is true.

So if I have ABC Shirt available in Pink and Green and S,M & L and I want the Volusion system to track inventory on Pink smalls, Pink mediums, etc… then these will count as 6 products. However if I just want the inventory system to track ABC shirts, then its 1 product. Or only pink and green ABC shirts, then its 2 products.

31 Bradley March 7, 2008 at 2:24 pm

Volusions bandwidth charges seem to be excessive compared to what is out there. They claim its because they host at rackspace, which is more expensive. This may be true, but Godaddy is a HUGE company and seems to delivery 1000 times the bandwidth for 100 times less the cost. The other point of interest I have recently seen is that volusion charges $100 to “install” a 3rd party SSL Cert, while they charge $79 a year for theres. So basically this equals you basically having to purchase their SSL for way more then say Godaddy which is $29 a year. I complained about this to support and they claim the reason is because it takes a lot of “time, money” to install SSL cert from 3rd partys and that there are security concerns when going with an outside SSL cert. provider. I find this to be completely bogus. It doesn’t take very much time to install SSL at all and could probably be automated to the most major SSL providers, which Godaddy is one of them. As far as “security” is concerned I would argue that Godaddy is their own CA, while Volusion appears to use an outside CA. These types of business practices are very annoying and I am sure drive customers AWAY from Volusion’s offering, even though it is pretty good in terms of features.

32 Ed March 15, 2008 at 9:54 am

Having experience with some storefronts, I was pretty excited to migrate to volusion until I learned about all the bandwidth issues. It seems whatever package you choose, you would need to at least double the cost per month in overage and one of my sites even the platinum package at 15GB is limiting… All in all, not sure if this is suitable for anyone who wants to grow their company.

33 Sam March 15, 2008 at 10:29 pm

So you have 10 shirts with 10 available colors each. You will need the Bronze Package, because Volusion will count your product total as 100 products. This is an important piece of information to consider if you have too many options within your products.”
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That is right. This is why I am looking at CoreCommerce (www.corecommerce.com). They are launching in April and don’t count options against you. BTW I am one of their beta testers. It is a real sharp looking system. Competes on features with Volusion with a much easier to use admin interface.

34 SESOwizard March 25, 2008 at 6:56 am

I’ve been a customer for a couple of years- 2 stores.
Re: above comments:
- the products with options can definitely be a problem. Even if you are not tracking inventory, if you want to generate specific product codes to drop ship, the only way you can do that is with the inventory function. I have shirts in 22 colors , 5 sizes, and 3 styles- that’s 332 “products” in their system. Rightfully so? Yes, but obviously, you need the most expensive plan, even with 5 items. In order to generate a PO with a separate line for each shirt with a different color, size & style, you’d want different product ID’s.
- support via ticket I’ve found to be generally fast, never waited more than a few minutes if I call tech support. live chat- forget it, long waits & people who can’t give answers.
- stats- their web stats are completely useless, other than researching keyword referrals- use Google Analytics instead
NEW
My biggest issue is since upgrading to V5, we’ve lost ROOT ACCESS. This is a major issue. There are so many needs for root access. Their solution is 301 redirects to a subfolder any time you need to put something in root. That only works part of the time and is not a very good solution for SEO.
- google site map- auto generated. for some reason it only picks up products, not any pages you may have made to build content. Again, since you cannot access root, you really can’t easily create your map and direct google to that instead.
- H1 tags- logically, all product name short would be h1 tags. Volusion has no H1 tags auto generated and adding them is a manual workaround for every product.
- links- Volusion requires you link to them on every page, or you pay them $25/mth. They do not offer a customer directory that could potentially boost your SEO, unlike every other major cart out there.
I like most things about the Volusion solution, but if I could find another alternative, I’d leave in a minute just to get back root access so I can add my own feeds and other SEO that I want. After all, if I can’t drive the traffic the way I want., what good is it?

35 Moving ON March 25, 2008 at 7:33 pm

I was considering purchasing Volusion Gold package until I got to the terms and conditions during checkout. I am REQUIRED to advertise Volusion on every page footer on my site or pay a monthly $25 extra. I hate being REQUIRED to provide free advertisement to my service providers. I should receive a discount if I advertise for you, right? I thought my $99.95 a month should be enough for the measly 5GB of bandwidth I am allotted and the small amount of items per plan. The plans are not designed for the apparel industry. Back to the drawing board.

36 Moving ON March 27, 2008 at 11:24 am

I was interested in Volusion so I emailed Volusion sales with concerns about topics discussed here. Here is the conversation:

>>>> INITIAL EMAIL:

Terra,

I am considering Volusion but have some reservations due to some of the reviews by current users of Volusion I have found online. Can you address them?

Bandwidth Overages – We are a small business with a set budget. We hope to grow quickly (as all businesses do :-) ). Our site will host images of our products and some small flash intros. The Volusion bandwidth complaints cause me to hesitate. Some of Volusion’s current customers are hit with overage charges twice their monthly bill and the charges happen overnight and unexplained. Sounds like a lot of finger pointing. This is reported by many, many customers. I agree with your customers that the bandwidth you provide is very small compared to other hosting sites.

Required Footer Link – Why does your company require free advertisement from your customers or penalize them with a $25 charge if they remove the link?

Number of Products – We are a lingerie company. How many products would this be? One bra style in 3 colors and in common sizes (32B, 32C, 34B, 34C, 34D, 36B, 36C, 36D) According to reviews; this would be 24 products…is this true?

Please response. Thank you and have a great day.

>>>> RESPONSE FROM TERRA AT VOLUSION:

Good morning! I would be happy to address your questions!

We determined our package bandwidth limits based on average client usage. We strive for optimal server speed, and for that reason, we try to avoid overcrowding our servers and assess bandwidth overages accordingly. This is the main reason that our bandwidth is lower than many providers.

Along the same lines, we do not charge transaction fees or limit content pages/flash design/images for client sites, nor do we charge for additional functionality. However, if a client chooses to host a massive amount of images/flash/content pages on their site, they may use an enormous amount of bandwidth. Rather than raising all package prices across the board for all Volusion clients, we simply require that only those clients who surpass their bandwidth allotment pay overages. A majority of our clients do not surpass this limit, and for most that do, their overages are still less than what they would pay elsewhere by being forced to purchase additional functionality/paying transaction fees.

The $25 dollar/month charge to hide the Volusion tagline on the footer is not meant to penalize those clients who want to hide it. We are a brand name just like any other company – we are proud of our clients and their work, and including our tagline on the footer has been our policy since our company began.

Different sizes, colors, styles of a product are considered different “products.” Our robust inventory controls require this to maintain accurate stock status/inventory management for our clients. If there is no differentiation between different sizes and colors, inventory cannot be properly maintained.

Hope this helps!

>>>> MY RESPONSE

Thank you for your response.

So how many clients are on each virtual server? Sounds like a lot to only offer 15GB for $197 a month. If that’s’ the case bandwidth will not be the only issue. According to reviews online and replies to my emails from your clients, a majority of your customers are indeed paying overages.
Transaction fees are predetermined monthly expenses, overages are not.
Bandwidth cannot be controlled unless you use an additional hosting service for images, flash, etc (which defeats the purpose). You are not charging a transactional fee, in theory, but with the overages…you are getting it (and then some). I guess it’s semantics. Sounds like you get a lot of complaints about it but continue to conduct business as usual. No happy median, I guess.

I understand what you are saying about the footer link but it’s still required free advertisement no matter how you word it. You are using Windows or Linux as your operating system but they do not require that they are advertised for free. You use Rackspace and boast about there service quality but they are not required to be advertised on customer sites. I’m sure all of these companies are proud of their clients and their work. The
$25 fee…it’s a penalty to your customers and they should be rewarded not punished for advertising for you. That is a big turnoff. If you are so proud of your clients, then why aren’t ALL your customers listed under your “client list” as opposed to only a select few? Then there’s free advertisement on both sides, right?

As for the number of products, most apparel companies with real world inventories cannot use any of your small business solutions except for Platinum. Your package options are definitely designed for non-apparel businesses. Also, it’s interesting that all the packages increase in increments of $20 until you get to Platinum…which doubles.

Thank you again. Still looking.

>>>> FINAL RESPONSE FROM TERRA AT VOLUSION:

Considering that you disagree so vehemently with our fee structure, perhaps Volusion is not the best solution for you. If you would like to discuss the functionality or benefits of our software, then I would be more than happy to do so. I have no problem addressing concerns by potential clients, but it seems that no sort of explanation can justify our fees/services in your eyes, and I’m not interested in arguing back and forth on the matter.

>>>> MY FINAL RESPONSE

I am aware of the advantages/benefits (those are listed on your website) but the disadvantages are the ones that concern me since you do not list those. I am trying to obtain information and to understand if the reviews/other customer concerns are accurate. To elaborate on that point, no where on your site does it state your customer service department will be rude to actual (or potential) customers regardless of their concerns. Your lack of answers and the way you addressed me says it all. I’m glad I emailed you…you made up my mind for me. By the way, the reviews DO state your customer care and support is arrogant.

>>>> End of Email Conversations

37 Bradley Barker March 29, 2008 at 2:54 pm

We went live with Volusion. Hope it won’t be a very big mistake. I have found the PO & Phone Order & Order screens for that matter to be confusing. They need re-thought out in my opinion. One thing I do not like about Volusion is their forum. They approve every single post. If they don’t like it, it doesn’t get posted. Example: If I disagree with an answer from support & post it on the forum to see if anyone has any answers, the post doesn’t go live. This is completely ridiculous.

38 Mike Lang March 30, 2008 at 10:26 pm

I mentioned this earlier as I am a beta tester for CoreCommerce. Check this out http://www.corecommerce.com/ecommerce101.html. I know they don’t charge $25/month for their “powered by” statement. They don’t charge anything to remove it. The way it should be.

39 Michelle Greer April 4, 2008 at 1:02 pm

Kirtok,

Stay tuned for more updates from us. Exciting stuff coming about, especially in terms of flexibility.

BTW, I am forwarding this post to higher ups regarding commenters’ concerns/requests.

Regarding Andy Beard’s review: Andy Beard actually never spoke to anyone here at Volusion, even though we call everyone who signs up for a demo. He even acknowledged in his review that he had little time to review the software. And while Andy Beard is spot on with blogging tips and SEO, I’m not sure if he’s ever run an online store. Perhaps it was not a good fit from the start.

Regarding bandwidth overages: please note that not all hosting is created equal. Unlike the type of hosting you can get for a blog, ecommerce hosting is very expensive. You are dealing with your customers’ sensitive credit card information, physical addresses, and phones numbers. A breach would probably put every single person who has commented on this blog completely out of business. TJMaxx’s breach ended up costing them over 250 million dollars. We take security very seriously because a breach could affect our business and the livelihoods of all of our affected merchants.

People who use a lot of bandwidth end up costing the company money. We can eat that cost and go out of business. We can pass it on to all customers, even if they are not the ones incurring those costs. Either one of these options does not seem fair to us or our customers.

Regarding SeSOwizard: I’m sorry your experience was negative. I spoke with Terra and she acknowledged that the matter was not handled appropriately. She was new at the time.

Kirkok, feel free to email me any questions/concerns you may have. Thanks!

40 Michelle Greer April 4, 2008 at 1:04 pm

BTW, I was so concerned about the issues in these comments that I forgot to mention that I work for Volusion! LOL We are taking many steps to ensure that our customers stay as competitive as possible on the web.

41 James Samson April 4, 2008 at 11:46 pm

Michelle,

nothing personal but it just sounds like you are trying to cover your butts. Your team has made many mistakes with many customers. A few sorry’s after the fact doesn’t make up for the mistakes.

42 ShopFinder April 6, 2008 at 12:09 am

I am in the process of finding a solution and was leaning towards Volusion for a client. They have less than 40 products, but have a lot of sales. Now, I am quite concerned about the bandwidth issue – especially because everyone seems to say that Volusion’s stats show 5 times as much as Google Analytics.

I had also liked the idea of well-supported product but it seems like the support isn’t so great. I have been trying the demo and have already had a few previews into the “limited support” issue.

CoreCommerce looks good, but it’s too new to entrust a client’s platform on.

43 Michelle Greer April 7, 2008 at 11:18 am

James,

You are welcome to email me your concerns at michelle_greer@volusion.com. We are not in the business to hurt our customers’ business by any means.

44 Fred April 13, 2008 at 12:07 am

So I guess Volusion doesn’t have any integrated method to print UPS shipping labels…this is very odd for a company selling e-commerce solutions. This definitely would hurt the productivity of any business selling products to residential customers as UPS offers the best rates and discounts to these types of customers.

Does anyone know of an automated way to integrate with volusion for the printing of UPS shipping labels?

45 Adam Smith April 16, 2008 at 3:18 pm

Thanks for your review.

I just wanted to note how terrible the affiliate program and support really are. If you need a stable/accurate affiliate program, volusion is not the way to go.

46 Andy Beard April 19, 2008 at 6:17 pm

Michelle you are quite correct in that I don’t currently run any online “hard goods” stores, and even when I was the international sales director at Techland.pl who also run http://www.msw.pl/ I stayed clear of web development from 1998 – 2002.
Note:- that site isn’t a good example of SEO but I am not involved with them.

I also run affiliate stores built from datafeeds, some of them built on WordPress, some built on other platforms.

I now avoid anything which might involve physical products that I might have to handle, but that doesn’t preclude that I might in the future.

When I wrote my review, I did a fair amount of research, not only on the Volusion site, but elsewhere.
All the reviews I found were little more than a press release based list of features.

Maybe I wasn’t suitable and you weren’t looking for feedback at that time.

That being said, my blog this month has so far used 140GB of transfer – I know it is an issue you will be looking into and look forward to updating, just like I wrote a fresh update as soon as you added support for Aweber.

Generally search engine spiders index websites more frequently than they have in the past. Sometimes Google picks up posts within 10 minutes.

Each time a shop updates one item, that could change on multipe pages with links to related items, category pages etc.

If you change special offers which create changes across the whole site, that again is going to add to bandwidth use.

A search spider when it arrives at a page checks the headers to see when a page was last modified. That isn’t a huge bandwidth use. If it finds a change, it is going to index the whole page.
For some items it might be advisable to include them using javascript if they are the same on every page, and are not part of the information architecture of the site.

As an example for WordPress, if you want to display recent comments on every page, that is something that could be javascript based.

You also have to allow for scrapers, competitors using tools such as Xenu Link Sleuth etc.

One aspect that is of concern is how long it is taking to address public concerns

47 Andy Beard April 19, 2008 at 6:28 pm

In addition I should point out that I don’t as a rule contact anyone I am requested to write a review for to clear up concerns when writing the reviews.
Sometimes I have contact before hand.

Time restraints, location and timezone often preclude direct contact, plus I feel it would have some baring on the integrity, which already comes under question with sponsored reviews.

To remain in good faith with my readers I do have to invest far more time than the potential financial rewards justify.

As an affiliate, I do get to see the backend of lots of different solutions.

At the time I wrote my review, I even applied for the affiliate program of one store owner, but for some reason they never got back to me.

48 Bradley April 23, 2008 at 2:55 pm

I’ve noticed something with Volusions drop-ship feature. When you drop-ship items they actually allow the system to go into negative inventory because “our system doesn’t receive inventory when using a drop-ship PO because you aren’t actually receiving any inventory”. Actually we are. If you are going to reduce inventory for a sale, then a drop-ship PO should increase the inventory by the same amount. Here is a link to Volusions KB article that actually says at the bottom that an inventory item going negative is fine. I can’t believe my eyes:

http://manual.volusion.com/Vendors-Drop-Shipping/11.htm

Bradley

49 Bradley April 23, 2008 at 2:55 pm

Support was not receptive with me when I told them this was a bug and should have never been designed this way to begin with.

Bradley

50 Kris May 1, 2008 at 2:14 pm

Hello all, this is Kris with CoreCommerce. Yes we are an up and coming solution, but we treat our customers with class and respect. Our system DOES NOT count product options towards your product limit, and the fees we charge for bandwidth overages are 30% less than Volusion. We have a 30 day, 100% free trial with NO SETUP FEE that you can sign up for, just to see how our system works. Our #1 goal is to provide the BEST shopping cart experience on the web for a low monthly fee and as many bells and whistles as possible. We also have a FREE SSL you can use IF you decide not to use your own. We also offer much more generous amounts of bandwidth and hard drive space, email accounts and products. Updates are made on the fly and when you signup, your store is created within 5 SECONDS. Anyone who has any questions about CoreCommerce, please feel free to contact me directly at 800-747-4270 ext 25.

Have a great day!

51 Michael Stein May 3, 2008 at 3:55 pm

We would like to move our websites to volusion but we use Ordermotion: OM enables you to have same products on multiple websites (we have 5 websites and adding more) and keeps you inventory live with many websites. There are also a few other options that OM does that we wish Volusion would have – and Stone Edge is not an option. It’s just not as good – but we are so siked on going to Volusion. Any suggestions?

52 Parag May 3, 2008 at 11:38 pm

This is indeed an awesome post with great reviews for Volusion. On April 14, I signed up with Yahoo stores and today after reading all the reviews, I am happy I made the right decision not to get bogged down by bandwidth costs and then hearing excuses from customer service. Excuses are not way to Customer Satisfaction. Solving customer issues and keeping Customers FIRST should be the priority.

No Customers! No Business! No revenue! Simple!

If anyone had come come across a good comparison between Yahoo and Volusion, please post it. Thanks.

I would suggest IMHO for Volusion team to take customers very seriously or the longevity of growth will fade.
I was considering switching to Volusion after reading initial review, but I am happy with yahoo and will choose best practices form Volusion and implement in my store.

53 David May 6, 2008 at 1:50 am

After having so much problem, I started to checkout complains about Volusion on the web using Google. I was surprised that there are many others who have the same problems as I do.

Currently, I have been with Volusion for almost 4 years and thinking and researching very very very hard for another alternative. The best time that I had with Volusion was only the 1st year. Afterward, my experience was going from bad to worst to hell.

Overall, I agree with all Volusion customers out there… the Support is rude and arrogant. Most of the time, they cannot solve your problem. Their response is wait and just create a ticket. If any of you there who are planning to go with Volusion, you may not want to look at my support tickets that contains all my bad experience from email problems, server not processing order, bugs, and, best of all, the bad support.

Right now I have couple of tickets opened and furious at how long it take them to response and also the response they gave.

In my opinion, Volusion is not for serious business. It is for recreational business. For serious business you need support. They have very little… worst…. they will help you rudely and arrogantly.

54 spitbitz May 23, 2008 at 6:01 am

Try ProductCart out. We run Volusion (since it was Store 2003), ProductCart and Shopfactory (also use to run AceFlex).

By far ProductCart has been the most flexible and cost friendly.

Source code for under $800 and you can find a great host for $25/mo (or more) and plenty of Developers looking to modify the cart anyway you wish.

55 steve May 28, 2008 at 6:28 pm

I sell subscriptions to digital content and my biggest need, after the transaction process is to track affiliates sales.

Is anyone familiar with http://www.openfreeway.org, an open source e-commerce platform. It is supposed to integrate easy to joomla based website…
THanks

56 Anton May 31, 2008 at 1:35 pm

This Blog ROCKS! I have been doing some serious web based research about Volusion for our new company. I even tried to call Volusion to discuss and their phones where down for hours durring business hours. I conversed with Rackspace to discuss their fees and found that Volusion is running at a very SERIOUS profit margin on that end. That combined with the ridiculous fees charged for design services and what seems a serious lack of customer support tells me that they are turning the way of many, many modern companies too focused on quarterly earnings at the customers expense. They even make a point to flaunt this on their website as a way to instill confidence in their success “1900% in the last 3 years”. I’m sure this figure is based on financials.

I can see that they where once very innovative but now it seems they have fallen the way of… learn em, turn em, and BURN em! Well, not me! I’m going with another company mentioned in this blog.

57 Creager June 4, 2008 at 4:31 am

I’ve only looked into Volusion so far and checked it all.

I went through everything tonight and decided that Volusion might be the way to go. I was excited and ready to pull the trigger. I called the number for some questions and couldn’t get through. I’m glad I put some time into this and did my homework.

Looks like I’ll be doing some more searching.

58 Lynn June 4, 2008 at 8:30 pm

Has anyone tried or had any success using Volusion tool(s) for integrating Volusion sales with Quickbooks (which is what I currently use to control my small business transactions) – or has a suggestion for an ecommerce option that does. I like many of the apparent features of Volusion (inventory…) DOes the T-Hub option that I recently read about help with this integration?

I am using the 14 trial for Volusion and really appreciate this review – especially info about bandwidth costs, how they count product options as products, and customer service issues.

Thanks for sharing your experiences and suggestions.

59 Kathleen June 18, 2008 at 1:35 pm

I am soooo glad I found this information. I was going to sign up with Volusion but the bandwidth issue and lacking support will keep me researching further.

Anyone have suggestions for the ideal shopping carts for digital downloads, CRM (customer database), and email/newsletter packages? That the core of what I need.
Thanks

60 Rachel June 26, 2008 at 5:57 pm

Hi,

This blog has been so helpful. I have a yahoo store and access to Google Analytics. How can I see what my current bandwidth usage is? That’s pretty key to deciding how affordable Volution is.

Thanks, anyone!

61 Rachel June 27, 2008 at 10:22 pm

We’re looking into ProductCart. Who is your favorite developer? We need a little design and some programming.

62 Tristan July 2, 2008 at 2:17 pm

Can you give us a bit more of a direct comparison between volusion and corecommerce? specifically right now in the security, inventory management, marketing and analysis areas?
i’m basically turned off of volusion just from these reviews.
cheers,

63 Fernando July 3, 2008 at 4:04 pm

I gave up on volusion a long time ago. You should see there arrogance in emails when bashing their competitors like yahoo or corecommerce. Not the way I would do business.

64 Famau July 9, 2008 at 7:02 pm

I am from the UK and I am also so grateful I found this review.
I have mixed feelings about Volusion. On one hand I think their software seems and looks OK, chatted with Terra online twice and she also was very friendly and helpful. But on the other hand, there seems to be a major issue in terms of Bandwidth and bad customer service.
Perhaps not all companies can be perfect and we do learn from mistakes, So I’m sure Volusion will one day take the correct measures before they seriously run out of business.
I must say I was nearly signing up with Volusion but now I think I might have to research some more. I wanna check out corecommerce and see how it goes. Any corecommerce reviews, anyone?

65 matthew eric July 10, 2008 at 9:42 am

I used to use volusion and they *say* they have 24/7 phone support, but IF you get through (waited almost 2 hrs one time) on the weekends/after hours AND the tech knows what the heck they are talking about–it’s a miracle. So, in my book no one really has TRUE 24/7 support.

66 Marv Chomer July 19, 2008 at 11:03 am

Thank you so much for this review and the comments. I have been on the fence trying to talk myself into Volusion. I sell software for car salespeople and feel a need to have a more professional storefront. I’m glad I found out about the bandwith issues before I pulled the trigger.

67 Bruno July 19, 2008 at 7:24 pm

Hi,

Thanks for these postings.

I was about to sign up for the 14 day trial period, but decided to keep looking. This is a very unfortunate turn of events, because I think Volution’s overall offering is competitive. Fixing the bandwidth issue and services should not be that hard to achieve. The best marketing move for Volution will be to come up with a definite solutions to the issues raised above, not excuses… Unless Volution takes that logical step, Internet will take care of their fate. Again, this lack of response is unacceptable, I truly was eager to sign up…

68 Bruno July 19, 2008 at 7:30 pm

One more comment…I dislike people trying to “plug-in” their products/services as corecommerce has done above. Many more competitors could…it is simply not the right place to do this…

69 Jessie July 25, 2008 at 1:35 am

Thank you for this review and the comments from everyone.

I’m on the 15 day trial with Volusion and have had a pleasant experience with their support live chat. I’ve always been able to get thru to someone within a reasonable amount of time and only experienced one person that seemed to be “arrogant”. He still was helpful.

I LOVE Volusion’s back-end interface. I checked out corecommerce thinking they might have a better support system there, but their interface wasn’t comparable to volusion :(

I’m still researching though – even though I was ready to click “purchase” before reading this blog!

Thanks again ~

70 Brett Stark August 15, 2008 at 9:33 pm

Hi Everyone – thanks for the review, that was great!!

So, my question is – what would you compare volusion against? Where does solutions like goecart and nexternal fit with respect to this?

Finally, are people finding the bandwidth issue a killer or not? At what number of unique visitors does it start to become a problem?

thanks!!

71 Shaun August 18, 2008 at 2:31 pm

Well, I was seriously looking into Volusion, until reading this thread and seeing the flat out bandwidth scam they are running.

I currently have 800-1200 uniques a day, with 1200 products and images hosted on a shared server at my current hosting company. I have never once gone over 10GB a month of bandwidth.

The though that basic sites with minimal images are pushing 10GB a month tells me they are acquiring their numbers a strange way, especially if they are telling their customers they have 5 times as many hits as google analytics is telling them.

Kind of makes you wonder. Thanks for this thread, I think it may have saved me a lot of money in the long run.

72 Ciarra Rossini August 18, 2008 at 6:01 pm

Thank you so much for this detailed and (from what I have found) an accurate review.

I have been researching ecommerce options for months, (we need to switch our current opensource solution)have tested out many and initially loved Volusion’s options for the most part but their customer support and bandwidth trickery completely turned us off.

We are a high volume sales business with 6 sites and are also in the position to refer many other similar companies to ecommerce cart solutions and the rudeness of their customer support(which I gather is purely inexperienced sales staff who they pay low wages to and dont much care about)was and is a huge turnoff.

The bandwidth issue is a big one and what someone says above about rackspace is correct.

We have used rackspace for years and Volusion’so markup is ridiculous.

I am rarely compelled to post to a review blog but this one was one I thought worthy.

Volusion, I hope you are seriously listening because these kinds of antics dont bode well online. You will find out quickly(within a couple of years) that treating your existing and potential customers with respect is your best asset.

For what it’s worth, we also work with one of your largest clients who are in the process of removing their business from your site.

Don’t forget about those high volume existing customers as well..taking them for granted will also bite in the butt.

Regards
Ciarra Rossini

73 HunkyDory August 20, 2008 at 3:04 am

Hello,

Thanks for the great review. I’m sorry for an off-topic, but is there any way to get in touch with you via email?

Thank you,
Michael

74 Trading August 22, 2008 at 6:28 pm

Hello,

Just got off the phone with Volusion. First sales, then Tech support. Both were extremely evasive on the whole bandwidth question. Sales was a bit rude and sounded like they were on a high horse….

I too was excited until I spoke to them…. They never ever did comment and completely evaded the bandwidth issue saying I should not go over and I should not worry about it. I dont need another bill….

75 Kari August 29, 2008 at 6:18 am

Tushar

We have been using Cardstream (used to be known as Velocity Pay on Volusion’s list)since October 2006 with our Volusion store. However, Cardstream have recently migrated to a new 3D Secure platform and Volusion have told us that they Cardstream are no longer on their list of supported gateways! Have you had any luck implementing Cardstream with your Volusion store? The actual issue seems to be that Volusion are unable (or simply don’t want to) to integrate the 3D Secure platform (from any UK payment gateway, not just Cardstream) with their software. We’re waiting to hear what they are going to do about it and in the meantime we have no option but to look for another web host.

76 KH August 30, 2008 at 12:10 am

Thank you to everyone above. I was just about to sign up with Volusion until I read about the bandwidth issue. I will either stay with Yahoo or keep looking.

77 Linda September 3, 2008 at 10:32 pm

My complaint is more general in nature, as to the way Volusion runs its business. Simply put, Volusion is horrible. Thank goodness we have internal tech support. We have only been with them since the end of June 2008 and it has been one headache after another. There is a serious lack of customer support. They do not know what they are doing on even slightly more complex issues. When there is a problem which is clearly arising on their end, customer support is quick to point the finger somewhere else. When you ask to speak to a supervisor to get a better dialog going, they write blind tickets (they will not get you directly in touch with the supervisor), claim someone higher up will call back, but no one ever does. When you complain, the attitude is well if you don’t like it you are welcome to discontinue service with us, knowing full well that is not an acceptable solution.

We’ve had numerous issues with Volusion. The problem just now is that it impossible to navigate our website. The page is “locked” and customers are unable to browse. We have customers calling in to make their orders. Other customers, I’m sure, are just leaving without making purchases. When we called customer service at Volusion, their only solution was to reboot their system. This did not work so they are now looking at other possible solutions. In the meantime we are (1) losing business and (2) paying for advertising clicks, which will get us nowhere since the website is down.

Volusion was rated well on a recent article in the Entrepreneur Magazine. The first-hand experience from a customer’s standpoint is the complete opposite of what that article claimed – - we would never recommend Volusion to any other small business.

78 Tim September 10, 2008 at 3:27 pm

Lots of folks above are wondering who to compare volusion too, and I found a great list while researching google checkout (since I want that added feature on my site). I recommend folks look at the companies on the “hosted” list on this page: http://checkout.google.com/seller/integrate_cart.html

All those vendors are compatible with g-checkout and are companies that offer hosting. I found quite a few great companies and am currently leaning towards corecommerce. It’s just insane what they offer (and I went there due to the CC employees post above and then realized that the company is also integrated with g-checkout).

79 mandi September 13, 2008 at 4:24 pm

I’ve been with Volusion for 2 months, I am just starting my business so the banwidth thing now really concerns me I will have about 2,000 or more products when I get everything entered all with pictures and I hope to get quite a bit of traffic. I was pleased with Volusion until yesterday.

Last week I purchased a very expensive design package from them including extra “custom” design hours. Giving my extensive amount of products the designer would create code, that I would copy and paste throughout my pages and products. Which was ok, i know I have a lot of items but for several thousand dollars I was actually the one who was really going to be doing most of the work!!

But that didnt bother me that much, I want my site to look good! I’m a very detailed person and I like to go over everything before I spend thousands of dollars, so I spoke in detail to a Volusion sales rep before I bought this package. I wanted to make sure that the package included everything to make the site how I have in mind.

The sales rep and I spoke for about an hour, he even went and discussed thing with an actual designer to make sure it could be done and what package I would need to buy to cover the costs. He 100% assured me everything could be done and since it was a complicated design thats why the custom hours were added. And again this was still just form them to create code for me to actually put on the site!!

I also inquired as to how long it would take to get started he said I would receive an email right after I made the purchase which is a little form about what you want with your design, after that is filled out a designer will contact you. He stated the turn around time is pretty fast, it could even be the same day. It took 2 days to get that 1st email and I had to call back twice asking where it was they didn’t seem to know I’d made a purchase!!

On a side note..had I not been so thorough in asking what happens after the purchase I would not have even known to expect an email so who knows if I would have ever gotten one. After I filled out the form (which I added detailed comments to, outlining everything I discussed with the sales rep. and citing examples in their design gallery) I got a standard email thank you from the designer and that they would be in touch but not stating when.

I got 2 more of those same emails the next 2 days. This Thursday I got another email from the designer setting up an appointment for yesterday (9/12/08) and a more in depth questionare.. I qutoe from that email “The more information you can provide in the beginning of the project, the more successful the finished design will be in achieving your goals.”

So I gave very detailed answers to the entire questionare, citing example sites from their gallery and giving detailed directions on how to get to the parts of sites I liked, ect. Their questionare asked me to detail pros and cons of different sites. When the designer contacted me yesterday for our meeting, the 1st thing she did was somewhat make fun of me for the long response, calling it overwhelming.

I got the impression she didnt really want to work with me, it wasnt anything she said just a feeling. I also said many times in all the forms that my ideas were just that ideas and if they didnt think they would look good I welcomed all suggestions and trusted the designer’s judgement!!

She then wanted to go over my answers to the questionare. My main concerns with my site are the navigation menus, the category pages, and the product pages. I selected 4 of the sites they have in their design client gallery, who have these sections exactly how I would like mine (which is the reason for me paying thousands of dollars for design work). She started off by saying I cant have my product pages in anyway like I had listed, the navigation could be done but the category pages could not (one of the navigation items is a left side nav bar in the category pages for the sub menus, so I dont know what good the nav menus would be if the category pages would be set up for them to be on??)

I asked her how the 4 sites in their gallery could all have the designs but I couldnt, she said it would be tons of hours and more money. Aside form having already paid them several thousand dollars I dont really care about money I just want a great design. She ended up deciding the design just couldnt be done.

All they were willing to do was basically the homepage, so for anyone wondering about Voulsion design. Depending on the package you choose they will do the navigation menu on the homepage, the header and footer. She informed me they do no uploading of immages or adding copy. And then button and logo design if your package comes with that.

They also make you use a 3rd party immage company that you pay for for any immages your design might need (the links they sent were kinda expensive).

I asked again how the sites in their gallery got their designs. Come to find out only a portion of the design work on the sites in their gallery is actually done by volusion the rest is done by 3rd party designers.

So Voulsion lists all these beautiful sites in there gallery and they didnt even design them!! I decided it was best to get my money back, she didnt argue like I expected her to. Again I really think she didnt want to work with me and I think she wanted out of the project. She did say she had to talk to her manager about the refund, so I really wonder how hard it is going to end up being to get my money back??

As of today 9/13/08 it is not back in my bank yet, I will re post if the refund becomes an issue. Hop this helps someone, I wasted a lot of time and energy on Volusion design now I have to start over looking for a new one and now possibly a new e commerce provider after reading some of the above comments.

If they dont give me a refund or take months to issue it, it will be a very expensive mistake as well…

80 Melis September 13, 2008 at 7:47 pm

As a new start up / small business owner I really appreciate the open forum here. Bruno mentioned he didn’t think is was appropriate for other ecommerce solution providers to comment here in the Volusion review, but I completely disagree. This is a forum! If there’s a solution offering out there that I should know about… I want to hear about it, regardless of who the messenger is. I actually heard about the CoreCommerce solution from business owners in a different forum, which led me to researching more about the product. Their offering looks top-notch and I’ve heard nothing but positive things from ex-Volusion customers that have switched over. If anyone has any other solutions they think is worthy or recommending, this is the place for it.

81 mandi September 13, 2008 at 9:45 pm

would anyone know a good designer if I switched to corecommerce?

82 jim September 14, 2008 at 5:24 am

TY all. We are currently looking for a “package” and Volusion was a front runner. We sell auto parts and currently use eBay, eBay Store and eBay Pro Store. With over 4000 products and more coming online bi monthly I dont think V is a Viable option.

83 Joel September 19, 2008 at 4:30 pm

Thanks for the reviews everyone…we have 6 stores that are running on OsCommerce and after looking at the on line demo for CoreCommerce, it is very easy to see that CC is nothing but OC on crack…seriously people. I have 10 years of experience in asp coding, web development, web marketing and hosting for clients across the US and some of you sound just as ignorant as Volusion reps are arrogant. I did trial demo’s with AspStoreFront.net, Volusion, Magento, and AbleCommerce. At the end of the day, when it came down to features, Volusion and AbleCommerce provided the best options. I gave every sales rep a list of 20 different needs that we had specific to our industry and, again, Volusion and AbleCommerce were the only two that were comparable.

Now when it comes to bandwidth allocation, Volusion (5Gb-15Gb/month) beat out AbleCommerce (2.5Gb/month) and the monthly hosting prices for both are pretty close to being the same.

Being in the hosting, design, and marketing business I understand that you can put a big load on servers if you have too many sites/stores running on them. And as far as GoDaddy is concerned, they are a nightmare for people like myself that want control over things. If you think they are a good option then you are sadly mistaken. Their servers have such a slow response time it is ridiculous, and there are many other options out there.

We have 500+ products currently and want to expand to 3000 products and above within the next 12 months. SO being that we live in a country based on capitalism, then YES Volusion will make sure they get paid if you are making more money from your storefront. I’ve done the research and there aren’t many impressive options out there unless you are a PHP guru and want to totally customize someone else’s storefront package.

So at the end of the day I would be more focused on the fact that Volusion is power packed with features and functionality, and they have been around for much longer which gives them stability. But at the same time I agree with most of you when it comes down to the fact that Volusion will fail in the end if they continue some of their shady business practices.

84 Paris September 21, 2008 at 8:15 am

What other good sites are there besides Volusions?

85 Michael October 4, 2008 at 11:37 pm

Joel,

I use corecommerce and i can assure you it isn’t oscommerce. I used to use OSC and that was a nightmare (code was horrible). Corecommerce code is much better, plus the stability is great. Have never used volusion. Just read bad things about bandwidth in different forums and sometimes lack of tech support.

86 Joni October 9, 2008 at 8:24 pm

I’m so happy to have stumbled upon this forum. I was all excited about Volusion for my website until I read this. I have some products that have 6 sizes, 3 colors AND 6 lengths EACH. So ONE of my products really equals 90 and I have 4 products of this nature which equal 360. And then I have matching seperates which equals 40. So now I am up to 400 and well…. that’s just the beginning. Tack on bandwidth issues and this forum just made up my mind. Thank you ALL.

87 drew October 16, 2008 at 10:36 am

I have had an identical experience to many who have posted in this forum. Volusion have done a great job with SEO and google ads for their site and the majority of related keywords will show them high in search rankings.

I signed up for the free trial and went through the manual page by page. The proposition is good and the software is powerful. I was pretty much sold. Then I contacted customer support with basic questions – ok to start with then radio silence, then contradicting responses with what I had read on their site.

So I decided to have a look at reviews and came across this. Now anyone who reads “scam” and “poor service” from enough people is an idiot to not take heed – especially when Volusion must review this blog and have really made no appropriate attempt to answer concerns.

Anyhow it’s a real shame as I would have really liked to have used Volusion, but a business is hard enough to run without headaches from your service providers who should be helping, not hindering you.

Now here’s the question – who to use? CoreCommerce comes up a lot of times here – but who else have people used who offer a similar package to Volusion? Are there really only 2 or 3 front-runners in this business?

88 Anil October 19, 2008 at 3:37 pm

This is an outstanding forum. Thank you all for helping so many potential customers better understand the subtle differences between Volusion and a few other vendors.

Like so many requests above, is there any one with enough knowledge to rank the top 5 companies that are listed at http://checkout.google.com/seller/integrate_cart.html and explain the methodology used in ranking? It will go a long way in satisfying the needs of so many potential customers. Thanks.

89 Mike R October 20, 2008 at 3:01 am

Thanks for all the posts! Checking out shopping carts for a client. I will skip Volusion. You know they’ve read all this and they don’t seem to care.

Michael

90 Sharon October 21, 2008 at 9:54 pm

There are not really many. You have CoreCommerce, Volusion and Yahoo. They are the top 3 in this business. There are others but most aren’t in those guys ballpark.

91 shelli October 22, 2008 at 1:04 pm

well, if we live through the initial quarter with volusion, maybe we’ll have something good to say.
but for now, i sum it up this way:
their administrative system is too advanced for anyone without a MBA in information technology to manage it.
we have gone through 2 very intelligent employees who have thrown up their hands and threatened to quit because of the frustration level.
just an example: yesterday we imported an excel spreadsheet of customers, or tried to rather. not only did it not import, but it also COMLETELY ERASED ALL OF OUR CUSTOMER DATA PERMANENTLY. guess how volusion resolves this problem? first they absolve themselves of any wrong doing by crying ‘user error’ – their default answer is always the same: “the customer screwed it up or checked the wrong box.: they make no allowances for their own errors, i’m pretty sure they must be gods, according to how they talk down to us.
they have offered us the ability to pay them $199, a mere 12 hours after the data was lost, to get the data from rack space.
I have asked how to appeal some of their decisions and was told there is no appeal process. again, they are gods, apparently.
we have had absolute nightmares, lies, and bogus information from Sales, Design, and Tech Support. we actually can hear them laughing at us while they muffle the phone and tell us to watch the online tutorials because they don’t have enough resources.
truly, this is not a system that is possible to figure out unless you are trained at a very advanced level of information technology.
and it’s my bad, since i read all these complaints about them online ahead of time, but thought i was smart and resourceful enough to work around them, to gain the SEO results.
i’m in too deep to leave now, but i recommend you take heed to the complaints and don’t exhaust your financial resources with them.
if anyone knows where i can file a complaint, please let me know at shelli@strappity.com
thanks for listening to me rant and rave – volusion sucks

shelli styles-gaviria
http://www.strappity.com

92 Paige October 22, 2008 at 5:24 pm

I appreciate Bruno’s response, that alternative solutions are welcome in a forum such as this. There are honest companies on the web, who treat people with respect.

I work as a project manager for a full-service web-design company, with our own web-hosted ecommerce platform, (programmed in-house!) We use Rackspace and our hosting fees are very reasonable. All of our work, from top-notch creative design, to the integration of our web-hosted shopping cart and customer service/tech support, is done in-house. In the actual office, by one of our own employees. We have a phenomenal list of basic features and our package prices are straight-forward and INCLUDE full custom website design.
Check out Hero-web.com if you’re interested in an affordable full service web-hosted ecommerce platform without headaches or hassles. In an age when business ethics are becoming extinct, we take pride in our products, performance, and customer service.

93 Frederick October 23, 2008 at 4:39 pm

Thank God I came across this forum while looking for reviews on Volusion. I was referred to them by a friend out in Texas and was very interested in having them design and host my site. I emailed them today and it’s funny because the main concerns here are the same concerns that I emailed them about. For instance I noticed that, whole counting the number of products thing. This forum helped me to learn about the bandwidth issue. This is crazy. I am starting a small greeting card business. Is there a better solution for someone who is starting a small business? Going this route how can one grow at all? I read about core-commerce here on the forum and another company named product cart. Can someone with experience and honesty please tell me more about the ins and outs of dealing with these companies? Are there any others who will design like Volusion and host but not have these ridiculous prices attached? I also understand that beside the monthly hosting fee, other companies take a percentage of your earnings or something compared to Volusion charging for number of products and bandwidth overages? Am I correct? Please help, I need to start my business a.s.a.p, everything else is in order.

94 Wicky October 23, 2008 at 7:34 pm

Has anyone looked at or worked with Global Web Cart?
http://www.globalwebcart.com/

How does it compare to Volusion?

95 Mike November 10, 2008 at 4:44 pm

I know that Channel Advisor Store is a percentage of sale based store but does anyone have any thoughts on it.

Thanks,
Mike

96 Shelly Jamison November 12, 2008 at 2:50 am

Sooo glad to find this review and all of the posts. I currently have a Yahoo store I am pretty happy with, I am keeping the Y one and want to try opening 2 more stores at a less expensive cost, Yahoo’s transaction fees are getting a bit high.

I saw Volusion mentioned in connection with the Obama campaign in one of teh SEO newsletter that I read weekly…..What an incredibly arrogant company Volusion is!!! With ridiculous bandwith charges and counting product options as unique products, and downright snotty customer support responses. Yes, I read that post, no excuse for that tone, “new employee” or no. You are responsible for ALL of your employees guys, you HIRED them.
Product Options Good heavens! I sell LEDs in 3 sizes, 7 colors, 3 flash rates, 2 set-ups and 2 wire lengths. What is that around 1,000 products???!!!
I am going over to look at Corecommerce and ProductCart
Thanks again Kirtok for starting this, I am eternally grateful I did not stray down the Volusion hole!!

97 Kris G. November 12, 2008 at 10:54 am

Hello everyone, this is Kris with CoreCommerce. I wanted to write in again to make sure every knows about our 30 day free trial. We also do NOT charge for any use of product options, we do NOT charge to remove the “powered by” statement in your design, and we do not charge any fees for restoring backups…..anyone on here who is looking for a change, please try out our product. Its a 30 day free trial that you can cancel at anytime…..if you have any questions check us out at http://www.corecommerce.com

Thanks!

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Director of Sales
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98 Enzo November 12, 2008 at 8:33 pm

I also have a store with Volusion, with the same gripes as the ones mentioned above.

I am also starting a new one store, and I want to go with another solution for that, as well as move the old one off Volusion.

I am currently messing with a trial account on Americommerce, but am also interested in Corecommerce and will probably do a trial with them as well.

Does anyone have any experience with Americommerce, good or bad?

And how might it compare with Corecommerce, my other possibility.

Thanks very much,
Enzo

99 Gregg November 22, 2008 at 5:22 am

Access to Volusion.com is blocked in China by the Chinese Government. Anyone know how to get around this.

100 Greg December 4, 2008 at 3:43 pm

Our company spends about $1,000 to $2,000 a month on shipping. I don’t like it, except that it’s tied to directly to sales and generally the more I spend on shipping, the more product I sold for that given month.

Doesn’t the same hold true with bandwidth even if it’s not directly tied to sales or are users experiencing something else?

I was going with Volusion until I read the review and comments from other readers. Volusion’s responses haven’t helped either.

I would like to know if sales increased with the months they got dinged for overages.

Thanks to everyone whose shared their experiences.

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